2009 F800ST oil leak

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2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby skylinedude » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:04 pm

Hi all,

I have just discovered an oil leak. Brother came round on Sunday to have a look at my bike, decided to start it up and let him have a go in the garden. parked it up and had engine running and noticed drops of oil. I have not had much time to take left side fairing off to have a look but after some seraching it could be either Valve Cover gasket or worst case scenario, head gasket so I am led to believe.

Have 2 questions really.

1. Cost of getting this repaired. Can this be done at home.
2. If BMW did a 12K service on this in October 2016 and the bike has barely covered 30 miles since then, could I go back to them even though the owners have changed or is it a case of suck it up and get it repaired.

I have not even ridden this bike yet as not taxed until next month :sad:
Very disappointed first time BMW owner.

All advice/replies gratefully received.
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:26 pm

Don't panic - it is likely something simple.

Go back to the BMW dealer's premises where the bike was serviced.
You have a BMW Warranty on service work.
If the new owners have BMW approval for servicing then they will deal with it.
They will know it has only done 30 miles since it was serviced and should put it right.

If the new owners are not BMW approved then I would take it up with your nearest BMW dealer who should honour the Warranty.

You have rights under the Consumer Rights Act 2016 that goods and services received must be of merchantable quality i.e. You expect them to last a reasonable length of time.

If any problems result go and see your local Citizen's Advice Bureaux.
However I expect that this will not be necessary and a BMW dealer will sort you out in a fair and proper manner as he wants you to keep using his services.
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby skylinedude » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:39 pm

Hi and thanks for your reply.

I am sorry but I do not understand what you mean by " If the new owners have BMW approval for servicing then they will deal with it." and "
If the new owners are not BMW approved then I would take it up with your nearest BMW dealer who should honour the Warranty."

I am the new owner, purchased bike on the 11/01, previous owner had it serviced by BMW in October 2016. Would BMW still honour?

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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:47 pm

Sorry, I thought you meant the BMW premises that serviced the bike had been taken over by a new owner!

My understanding is that the warranty on the servicing is transferrable where the vehicle changes ownership.

As said, go back to the BMW dealer that serviced the bike with the servicing paperwork if you have this or can get it from the previous owner and see how you get on.

Keep us advised of the outcome.
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby Bill Smithson » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:51 pm

I am sorry but I do not understand what you mean by " If the new owners have BMW approval for servicing then they will deal with it."
"the new owners" would be the new owners of the business where the bike was serviced. Are they approved BMW repairers?
If so, they should be your first port of call.

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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby boxerman » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:27 pm

Well... maybe the first question to ask would be this. Is your brother a practical joker who may have sprinkled a few drops there ro wind you up? It has been known..
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby raesewell » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:30 pm

I think the OP means the new owner of the bike not a new owner of the garage.

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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby skylinedude » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:37 pm

Sorry for the confusion.

The garage is a BMW dealer where the bike was serviced and I am the new owner of the bike.

Haha no my brother would not do something like that.
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby Teetwothousand » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:05 pm

Valve clearance is in the 12K schedule so they should have done it. In doing it they should ensure that the gasket is replaced and/or up to the job.

It sounds like it isn't - definitely something they should rectify for free
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby skylinedude » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:20 pm

I have the invoice that I got from the bikes previous owner and it does state that they checked valve clearance. I was thinking along the same lines that of they did that then surely they would have noticed the leak.

There is oil and muck all catching at the bottom of the fairing and cannot be missed if you are servicing bike etc.
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby Fox » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:37 pm

Evening Dude.
This is a thorny subject and has more than one answer, usually.
Yes, it could be the rocker cover - that rightly is the responsibility of the servicing agent. IIRC, the workshop manual indicates that gasket seal should be used at the timing chain end of the gasket. New wisdom says that the bead should be applied from at least half way back across the width of the engine round to the same point the other side. So thats basically half way round the cover. I've done and it stopped the leak dead (thats 2yrs ago!)
Alternatively, as you say oil is gathering at the bottom of the fairing it is also likely that its a duff seal between sardine tin (oil cooler) and engine. Very typical. Fix is equally simple. New gasket, clean and flat both mating surfaces, bolt up, done. Takes about that long too.
I concur with other wisdom that its most unlikely a head gasket issue.
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Re: 2009 F800ST oil leak

Postby skylinedude » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:21 pm

Have taken fairing off, cleaned oil off and run bike for 30 mins, oil drip is back. Taking it all apart is beyond my capabilities.

Can anybody recommend a reliable independent garage that can diagnose and repair oil leak. I am in East Northants, would be great if fairly local.
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