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E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Murphy » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:17 pm

E10 petrol is soon to hit the forecourt. Allegedly vehicles built since 2011 are compatible but older vehicles may not be. The Government’s website is rather opaque about this.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e10-petrol-explained

Anyone know what the deal is with oilheads?

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Mark Esposito » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:07 pm

Hi Murphy,

This might help you.


https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic? ... source=app

This is from the government E10 checker.<br /><br />MarkImage<br /><br />Sent from my motorola one vision using Tapatalk<br /><br />


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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Murphy » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:11 am

:oops: Thanks, Mark. I’d looked at it but went as far as BMW without twigging there was ‘Motorad’ BMW too.

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby King Herald » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:46 pm

The ‘models’ may be compatible, but does that mean the rubber hoses?

I think the question is more about what make and type of hoses, internal and external, we have all retrofitted over the last couple of decades from ownership. I doubt anybody has the originals fitted.
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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Mark Esposito » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:10 pm

I suppose short of swapping every hose out as a precaution we will all find out within a year or so !

Also I suppose one of the benefits of BMW ownership is good availablity of parts if we do need them, the downside is the cost !

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Mjolinor » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:13 pm

It could be worse. A friend of mine had to fork out close to £1k for a Ducati tank because once removed there was no way to get it back on again.

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby King Herald » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:11 am

It could be worse. A friend of mine had to fork out close to £1k for a Ducati tank because once removed there was no way to get it back on again.
A disposable fuel tank? :shock: Consumable item?
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Postby Mjolinor » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:19 am

It could be worse. A friend of mine had to fork out close to £1k for a Ducati tank because once removed there was no way to get it back on again.
A disposable fuel tank? :shock: Consumable item?
Ethanol makes a lot of plastic things consumables.

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Brian » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:11 pm

It could be worse. A friend of mine had to fork out close to £1k for a Ducati tank because once removed there was no way to get it back on again.
I don't understand this, what was the reason for the tank not being able to go back on again please?

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Mjolinor » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:21 pm

The plastic distorts and is put under tension or compression. When you take them off the tank relaxes and you cannot put them back they just do nto fit any more because they are the wrong shape. I think people in the USA had one of those class action dodads against Ducati about it.

Google should give you some examples of people whinging about it I think.

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Brian » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:43 pm

The plastic distorts and is put under tension or compression. When you take them off the tank relaxes and you cannot put them back they just do nto fit any more because they are the wrong shape. I think people in the USA had one of those class action dodads against Ducati about it.

Google should give you some examples of people whinging about it I think.
I'd not heard of this before, thank you. At a grand a time, I'd be whinging too!

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Brickboy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:50 pm

This is why you should immediately refit the tank centre panel bolts once the side panels have been removed. Don't leave them out or you might find it's hard to get them back in

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby gotch » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:48 pm

hi,noob here,wondering if theres anymore news on this?.

my 1150rs is plastic tank and ive just taken it off, (as stripping the bike down for possible clutch splines etc,or might break,depends on costs),its still got half a tank of this new petrol in it,guess ill have to dump that out asap.

i once had a triumph daytona that went mishaped and blistered because of the unleaded,is this the same thing?

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby King Herald » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:29 am

hi,noob here,wondering if theres anymore news on this?.

my 1150rs is plastic tank and ive just taken it off, (as stripping the bike down for possible clutch splines etc,or might break,depends on costs),its still got half a tank of this new petrol in it,guess ill have to dump that out asap.

i once had a triumph daytona that went mishaped and blistered because of the unleaded,is this the same thing?

cheers.
If it’s off already empty it out, rinse it out, then put it back on in case it has gone soft like the Ducati’s mentioned earlier. Hopefully it will retain its shape as it hardens up again.
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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby gotch » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:42 am

ok thanks,have drained it as it looks like im off the road for a while now.
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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Miv » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:08 pm

Thought I would share this, as I have been using e5 in my R1150r.
But about two weeks ago I cleaned the throttle bodies, injectors, BBS's etc. and synched TB's.
Bike was running really sweet, went to fill up at my local garage and they were out of e5, so I put e10 in, the vibrations with e10 were really noticeable, I rode the bike till fuel light came on + 15 miles, to get rid of most of the e10 and refilled with e5, vibrations reduced and bike was again running really nice, I rode the bike until fuel light came on + 15 miles and refilled with shell v power, not totally sure, but I think the vibes are even less with v power, but I won't be using E10 again.....unless I have too,

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Brian » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:53 pm

Thought I would share this, as I have been using e5 in my R1150r.
But about two weeks ago I cleaned the throttle bodies, injectors, BBS's etc. and synched TB's.
Bike was running really sweet, went to fill up at my local garage and they were out of e5, so I put e10 in, the vibrations with e10 were really noticeable, I rode the bike till fuel light came on + 15 miles, to get rid of most of the e10 and refilled with e5, vibrations reduced and bike was again running really nice, I rode the bike until fuel light came on + 15 miles and refilled with shell v power, not totally sure, but I think the vibes are even less with v power, but I won't be using E10 again.....unless I have too,
Interesting, thank you for sharing it. I've not put any E10 in either of our cars or my bikes yet, I don't think I will unless it's all I can get.

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Miv » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:07 pm

Same here Brian, it was as if the TB's were totally out of synch, fingers crossed e5 continues for a long time.

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Murphy » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:40 am

E5 certainly seems to give improved performance in my R1100RS

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Re: E10 fuel and oilheads

Postby Miv » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:24 am

E5 certainly seems to give improved performance in my R1100RS
And if you take less mpg into consideration with e10, maybe e5 isn't that much more expensive ?


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