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R1100RT Oil.

Postby Boxer11002198 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:35 pm

What are the acceptable oils for the R1100RT please. & synth or not ?
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby ssray » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:16 pm

R1100gs over here and 20/50 mineral

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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby j8ejc » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:34 pm

This is a subject that has been covered on numerous occasions and a quick use of the search facility should give you lots of reading material.
Your R1100 Rt can happily use mineral oils with a 20/50 spec but ensure that the correct performance rating is met.
I've run mine on semi synthetic and mineral types and feel that it runs better on a good mineral oil but this only a personal feeling

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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Jaythro » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:15 pm

If you are going to race it wildly around a track ??? Semi synth will be fine

Ordinary every day riding ? Mineral is fine! I have bikes still coming for service with 100K plus on ordinary 20 W50 Oil
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Boxer11002198 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:44 am

If you are going to race it wildly around a track ??? Semi synth will be fine

Ordinary every day riding ? Mineral is fine! I have bikes still coming for service with 100K plus on ordinary 20 W50 Oil
Hi.can I assume that when you say " ordinary 20/50 oil" you mean the stuff you put in the average Mondeo. You don't have to conform to AS I spec AD SG SH for ordinary day to day rideing/ ride outs. ECT. Thanks for your response.
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby milleplod » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:59 am

'Ordinary 20/50 oil'....that has the correct spec! But yes, its the same stuff you might put in an older car. There is some on the market that doesn't have the rating - Comma X-Flow Type MOT being one of them - but personally I'd go for one with the spec.

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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Boxer11002198 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:58 am

Hi Pete.
Having difficulty identifying engine oils that are of the correct SAE & AS I Classification. Would you be kind enough to reccomend a few please. Perhaps you too Jaythro. That way I just MIGHT find an oil that is available in the wilds of West Wales. Thanks gents.
R1100RT 1996 19000miles Fom new at purchase .Now 32000 @ 31/8/19
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BMW K1100RS 1995 Sold. Should have kept it & sorted leaky front brake cyl !!
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby milleplod » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:24 pm

One that springs immediately to mind is Euro Car Parts' own-brand Triple QX 20w50 - its usually very keenly priced, courtesy of their never-ending 'sale', and gets free delivery too....even to the wilds of west Wales! :lol:

eBay item no. 251803385701 is from a highly-rated independent supplier, and is API SG spec. Opie Oils always have a range to choose from - https://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-661-20w50-engine-oil.aspx

Most of the supermarkets will have own-brand stuff too, which is perfectly fine, and quite often have the big-name stuff on offer.

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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:36 pm

My R1100RT is run on Morris Lubricants V-Twin 20W/50 Mineral API SF/SG.

I buy it online direct from Morris so that I can be sure it is not cooking oil being supplied and that the necessary amount of ZDDP additive (around 1200 ppm) is present (confirmed by Morris Tech Dept in email correspondence as 'sufficient').

https://www.morrislubricantsonline.co.u ... e-oil.html
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Boxer11002198 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:33 am

Thank you to all who have responded.
I have settled on the Europarts Tripple QX 20/50 as recommended by Milleplod(Pete). Mainly because of its availability in Carmarthen & it's high wear resistance. Great work chaps. Good to have such an active forum.
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Tony the Skin » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:44 am

Quite a lot of folk on 1100/1150 bikes reckon that they tend to use a little less oil after 50,000 miles so get on with the riding Boxer and keep enjoying it
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby milleplod » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:50 am

Thank you to all who have responded.
I have settled on the Europarts Tripple QX 20/50 as recommended by Milleplod(Pete). Mainly because of its availability in Carmarthen & it's high wear resistance. Great work chaps. Good to have such an active forum.
You don't happen to belong to the Police force Pete do you ? Plod
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby King Herald » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:01 am

'Ordinary 20/50 oil'....that has the correct spec! But yes, its the same stuff you might put in an older car. There is some on the market that doesn't have the rating - Comma X-Flow Type MOT being one of them - but personally I'd go for one with the spec.

Pete
I now use 20/50 in mine... ...except I just went to France and couldnt find it anywhere.

Then some kind soul in a garage poured a half litre of ‘something’ into it while I was taking a pee.

I had stopped to look in several garages, as I was desperately low on oil and told the guy that basic car motor oil will suffice, so he found something from somewhere, in a small jug, and proceeded to pour the whole half litre in while I was distracted. ](*,)

Oddly enough it filled it to the red dot exactly.... 2000 miles later it is still running okay.

(Reminder to self: put the spare bottle of 20/50 in your luggage when you go overseas, like you planned!)
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby milleplod » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:12 am

I always carry 500ml of whatever I used on the last oil change, even though my RT (and ST before that) doesn't seem to use any. I learnt that lesson on a trip through France into Spain many years ago, on my ThunderAce....crikey, that bike could really drink oil! I bought it new in '98 and at 3 months/1000 miles old, just after the first service, set off on my trip. Somewhere south of Nevers, on a back road, the bloody oil light came on as I was winding the throttle open setting off from a junction! :shock: I pulled over, heart hammering, my mate nearly rear-ended me as I stopped so quickly for no obvious (to him!) reason. I thought the light was telling me 'no oil pressure' - had I bothered to read the handbook, I'd have realised that, because of its prodigious thirst for oil, Yamaha saw fit to use a low-level warning instead...opening the throttle had presumably thrown the oil back and for an instant the sensor registered a low level.

Anyway, the next few miles were spent at fairly low speeds while we searched for a garage. The only one we found was a tiny little place - in we went, and I asked for 'l'huile pour moto'. The guy behind the counter asked me in English what was wrong with my wheel! :lol: I'm not sure if he was being a smartarse or not, but we had a chuckle and got down to the business in hand! The only oil he had was a litre of.....something! The container had a picture of a small dumper truck on it, no spec, no viscosity, but it looked and smelled like engine oil, and I remembered our work bike mechanic telling me that any oil was better than no oil, so in it went. 8-[

400 miles later, we arrived at our campsite without any further issues, although I had been fretting about what the mystery oil might be doing to the engine. I decided to do an oil change the next day, which wasn't going to be easy as I'd only got the bike's very basic tool roll with me. Wandering around the site, I spotted a brand new, Brit registered Range Rover parked next to a huge touring caravan, with an old guy and his Mrs sat nearby. 'He looks well organised' I think to myself, and struck up a conversation with him which, naturally, led to asking if he'd any tools I could borrow. :smile: He was better equipped than my garage! I set off into Palafrugell on an oil-hunt after getting directions from reception - after 3 or 4 laps of the town's backstreets, I was struggling to find the bike dealer that I knew was there somewhere. As I pulled up to ask for directions, 2 young lads on scooters skidded to a halt - they'd clocked me going round and round and offered to take me to wherever I was looking for....and it was a Yam dealer when we got there! 5 litres of overpriced oil later, plus a genuine filter, and I'm back on site.....oil drained into a carrier bag, new filter fited and oil added, I'm happy! :grin:

We took the old couple out for a meal that night - they told us they spent every November through to June touring Spain and were equipped for most eventualities short of the apocalypse....unlike me! :lol:

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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby gogs01 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:28 pm

..... Somewhere south of Nevers, on a back road, the bloody oil light came on .......oil drained into a carrier bag ..... :lol:
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:34 pm

I bet it was emptied into the campsite loo waste disposal point! O:)
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Re: R1100RT Oil.

Postby milleplod » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:21 am

..... Somewhere south of Nevers, on a back road, the bloody oil light came on .......oil drained into a carrier bag ..... :lol:
Pete
Sorry, I have to ask - what did you do with the carrier bag ? :shock: :grin:
I bet it was emptied into the campsite loo waste disposal point! O:)
I'm ashamed to say that, having treble-wrapped it, it went into one of the site's rubbish bins! :oops: You weren't far off Ced! :lol:

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