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Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby george baker » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 am

Hi
walking the bike into the garage it slowly slipped to the ground, it took me a long while to pick up

I have a small dent on the underside of the rocker cover

Fuel off, Sealed battery so that is ok

Anything I should check?

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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby SteveD » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:36 am

Bugger, but you should be good to go. Left or right side?

Check for a oil leak from the rocker after a good ride.

A slow drop isn't usually an issue.
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby george baker » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:43 am

Hi thanks
right side

Any why on earth didnt the crash bars land first?

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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby CharlieVictor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:56 am

Crash bars are meant to protect the rider's legs George, not the bike.

Did you manage to slown the fall down a bit?

Happened to me a couple times, once on concrete... Lack of coordination on my part, the side stand shot back up as I was bringing the bike down.
Scratched rocker cover (ahem... couldn't tell which scratch though...) but no harm done.
You should be fine. It's not like she fell down hard.

Go for a ride and let us know.
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby george baker » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:01 pm

Hi CV
I did not know that about crash bars

It did not fall -- but slipped slowly away-- the angle of lean reducing ever so slooowly, until it went at less than 45 degrees, so a small dent

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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby Nate » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:42 pm

George - I doubt there's any damage of note apart from slightly dented pride. We've all been there...

After reading what Duane Ausherman had to say about crash bars I have removed them from every airhead I've subsequently owned:

https://w6rec.com/crash-bars-are-very-dangerous/

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Postby boxerman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:11 pm

Unlikely to have caused anything other than a little scratched paintwork
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby IanB » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:46 pm

The other thing is - new rocker covers are cheaper than new crash bars... :grin:
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Postby Galactic Greyhound » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:20 pm

....After reading what Duane Ausherman had to say about crash bars I have removed them from every airhead I've subsequently owned:

https://w6rec.com/crash-bars-are-very-dangerous/

An interesting article from a very experienced rider!

In 1960 I had a Triumph Speed Twin (500cc vertical twin) and fitted large 'D-type' crashbars.
I was very pleased with them especially as I could create showers of sparks when cornering.

One winter, when approaching a roundabout, I hit a patch of ice.
My left foot went down to stabilise the bike and went under the crashbars as the bike came down on its left side.

I was lucky - my ankle blew up like a football but nothing was broken.
Since then I have never fitted crashbars again.
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Postby andymcg » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:05 am

Crash bars are meant to protect the rider's legs George, not the bike.

Did you manage to slown the fall down a bit?

Happened to me a couple times, once on concrete... Lack of coordination on my part, the side stand shot back up as I was bringing the bike down.
Scratched rocker cover (ahem... couldn't tell which scratch though...) but no harm done.
You should be fine. It's not like she fell down hard.

Go for a ride and let us know.
One use of the crash bar is to mount my east to deploy sidestand modification.
I fitted it to make it easier to get side stand down while astride the bike and then safer to dismount when I had luggage on the pillion seat.
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby SteveD » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:07 am

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You should be ok with a gentle tip over.
Check under to ensure the fins are ok, but I expect they will be.
Anything moving forward with momentum may cause more damage, terrain and speed dependent.
On the right side, the brake pedal, the cylinder head fins, thermostat banjo if you have a thermostat....


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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby george baker » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:14 am

Hi
Andy
I can reach mine but I like your mod

Steve
I was stood still so no problems with scuffing, it just slipped slowly away

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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby DEEP DIVER » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:45 pm

The scuffed rocker box's can be alloy welded up. I had to do this to both of mine after a washing session and found I had ground both sides down. #-o
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Postby Galactic Greyhound » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:03 pm

Interesting video Barry - thanks for posting!
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby CharlieVictor » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:48 pm

George - I doubt there's any damage of note apart from slightly dented pride. We've all been there...

After reading what Duane Ausherman had to say about crash bars I have removed them from every airhead I've subsequently owned:

https://w6rec.com/crash-bars-are-very-dangerous/
A very complicated -but true- explanation.
As far as I'm concerned, the crash bars induced problems far offset their uselefulness.
At standstill, they will prevent the rocker covers from being scratched (big deal!) if the bike tilts.
At high speed, well, Ausherman said it all. Plus, the bars will most likely bend the frame, which is pretty much the worst that could happen to the bike.

Crashbars on an airhead (and apologies if I already told this story elsewhere), remind me of the ... well, front and rear crashbars sold for the old Minis in the 70s...
Because the Mini's bumpers were much lower than other cars'' bumpers, when your Mini was hit from the front when parked, the plastic grill would smash. Same in the rear, where the lid would take the hit right in the licence plate usually...
So they came up with those accessory crashbars that were supposed to protect the Mini by offering a "shield" from other unfriendly bumpers.

Problem was, in the front those bumpers were bolted on the radiator support frame, just under the edge of the hood. In the back they were bolted between the lid and the trunk frame.
Guess what: the SMALLEST love tap on the front crash bar would bend the rad frame which in turn folded the HOOD in two !!
Same in the rear, the very solid hard steel crash bar would no bent, the whole trunk lid taking the brunt and folding !!
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby CharlieVictor » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:52 pm

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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby andyb » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:32 pm

Sorry to hear about your tumble George.
I have dropped my R80 / 100 bikes a couple of times, always at slow speed or stationary. The panniers worked as rear crash bars and luckily no real damage. Except when my wife dislocated her shoulder, but at least she was able to use the other arm to help me pick the bike up before she went to hospital.....
If you have ‘dented’ the rocker cover I would remove it and check inside. It may be cracked as it is a casting which will be brittle. Also check the central M8 mounting stud is straight.
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Re: Laid R100R down, what to look for

Postby george baker » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:34 am

Hi
good thought, thanks

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