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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:31 pm

Solved. missing spacer between drum and wheel.

I do wish someone had not thrown it together to stick in the auction, I would rather have just had boxes of bits.

Thanks to Rob Frankhamr for giving me some of the clutch push bits I needed and Southcoastboxers have got back to me today with the other missing bits.

Just missing a twist grip and a red emergency stop button now. Southcoastboxers ahve a throttle but they want o sell me the whole thing with brake lever, I will probably end up getting that. I may have to 3d print the emergency stop button I think unless I can find a cheap broken handlebar switch.

It si coming together. :)

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Roy Gavin » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:56 am

If your bike has taper roller bearings then tightening the axle nut also takes up all the play in the shim stack and taper bearings.
Taper bearings should always have a thou or two preload - how you set it is the question.
I have read somewhere that one procedure is, with both axle clamps loose, to turn the wheel as you tighten the nut and you should just feel the bearing start to tighten at 20 ft lbs.
If you dont the spacer between the bearings is replaced or shims added/removed.
There is a GG length procedure involving tiny spring balances reading in fractions of an ounce/gramme? but the torque procedure works fine for me.

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:15 am

Going to buy some new bits today (I hope you were seated when you read that though maybe you don't know me well enough to be shocked at the word "new" yet)

Plugs: W225T30 (1971 R75 engine)
Engine oil: 20:50
Gearbox oil: 80W90, also for the rear drive.

There is conflicting information on t'interweb as usual but those seem to be most mentioned.

Anything wrong there?

Can anyone link me to a graph of revs V advance please?

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:58 am

You'll find that the plugs are now W5D1. Used to be W230T30 for the /5 /6 models. Assuming you're using stock plug leads, you should avoid resistor plugs as the stock leads already have an internal resistance.

20/50 or 10/40 oil to modern spec will be fine for any temperature you're likely to encounter in Burnley :grin: ... you don't have to bother with motorcycle specific oils.

For preference, the gear oil should be hypoid rated for the final drive (it'll be fine for the rest of the power train as well).
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby george baker » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:03 am

Hi
Mike Fishwick at The Airhead meet said to use synthetic gearbox oil for a smoother change

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:45 pm

Hmm, looking at the thread in the head I would have said it should be a short reach plug but the numbers are long reach. Am I seeing it wrong, it looks to me like a long reach will hit the valves when they open.

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby windmill john » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:33 pm

Well that's the second time I've posted and my thread disappeared!

Ced, was that you again?!


I posted about using Hypoid.
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:49 pm

Well that's the second time I've posted and my thread disappeared!

Ced, was that you again?!


I posted about using Hypoid.

Not guilty m'lud!

Been cutting a hedge :lol:
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby boxerman » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:22 pm

Well that's the second time I've posted and my thread disappeared!
Just check logs and nothings been deleted anywhere..
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby windmill john » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:07 pm

No worries, Phil, thanks for checking. There is always the possibility that I typed it and didn't hit submit... perish the thought! :smile:
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:07 pm

It's an age thing. There are advantages though like every bottle of wine is a new one and there are no repeats on TV. :)

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:54 pm

All bloody day, tasks completed = 1

Rev counter cable fitted. :mad:

The spacer that holds the gear in was not there, had to remove it from the spare engine, boy was it stuck. The spare gear is no more, ceased to be, dead, etc.etc..

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Roy Gavin » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:05 am

My servo was remaindering BP Limslip which is GL 5/6 , one step up from the GL 5 that BMW recommend.
At a buck a liter I grabbed a few as I actually ride my bikes and service them at the recommended intervals.
I was using M1 synth gear oil , so didnt expect any improvement in the change, but was pleasantly surprised to find that there was one.
FWIW BMW's current recommendation for every airhead ever made is that you use a synth or semi synth MA 2 Motorcyle oil, in a grade appropriate to your climate, and 20/50 covers anything you are likely to encounter, or ride in, in the UK.

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:06 am

Can someone please confirm that this is correct.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R-60-ALL ... SwrjBZ-MTF

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Roy Gavin » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:56 am

Might be , but the proper filter and fitting kit is not a lot more expensive at Motorworks/ Bins so why risk it?
There have been a few reports of aftermarket one piece filters collapsing, so I stick to OE two piece from a reputable source - dont see the point in risking the motor far a couple of bucks.
You will need a handbook to show you how to fit it correctly- it is not intuitive !

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:24 am

Can someone please confirm that this is correct.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R-60-ALL ... SwrjBZ-MTF


Can't be sure from that picture. You need to ensure that the filter has identical ends with seals at both ends. If the hole at one end is larger and has no seal, it's for a bike with an oil cooler and won't fit yours.

This page goes into it in more detail https://robfrankham.com/oil-filter-change

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby CaptAirhead » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:30 am

Agree with Roy. Motorworks will supply the correct item for your bike and the quality will be OK. Also, there are two different sizes of filters depending on whether or not you have an oil cooler fitted. The filter in the advert on eBay could well be the longer one for the oil cooler.
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby george baker » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:00 am

Hi Roy
where did you find
"BMW's current recommendation for every airhead ever made is that you use a synth or semi synth MA 2 Motorcyle oil, in a grade appropriate to your climate..."?
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:27 pm

Long shot this but I need to ask before I buy a switch.

Does anyone have a smashed right hand switch that I can rob the emergency stop button and switch internals from?

One would think I could be Scottish with my ability to not get my wallet out. :)

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:09 pm

......….One would think I could be Scottish with my ability to not get my wallet out.

In Scotland we call that being 'canny'! :lol:

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Roy Gavin » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:20 am

George, BMW issue Technical bulletins from time to time, on various subjects , including their recommendations for oil.
They have always recommended that you use the best oil available at the time of the recommendation, and when brand name Synthetic was generally available they specified it, either semi or full synth.
A copy of one of these bulletins is floating around the net somewhere, and it also states that it superceeds all previous recommendations.
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby george baker » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:32 am

Hi
thanks I will look
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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:44 pm

Just pulled the locks off the panniers to try to sort the keys. Gese there is more security in Micro$haft software than there is in these things. Even locked I would think I strategically placed kick will spring them off the carrier.

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Mjolinor » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:14 pm

Is the addition of the TCI from later models worth the effort of fitting it?

I will have to do some wiring obviously but it should work with points if I add a few bits or I could fit a hall effect sensor or an optical one.

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Re: I got myself a "bike"

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:34 pm

Just pulled the locks off the panniers to try to sort the keys. Gese there is more security in Micro$haft software than there is in these things. Even locked I would think I strategically placed kick will spring them off the carrier.
Yup...

FWIW, the latches on those panniers have a poor record for letting go at inconvenient moments. A lot of users add a strap or bunjee for safety.

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