Lane splitting (re) banned in France

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Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby vmx1200 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:13 pm

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby Mjolinor » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:27 pm

Seems to me that rather than just saying 12% more accidents they should look at the why of the accidents and address that problem. If it turns out to be the bikes to blame then fair enough but stupid car drivers who open doors should be bloody banned.

Presumably the law will also mean that you are not allowed to ride two abreast on motorbikes either as that can probably also be classed as lane splitting. I wonder if push bikes are covered.

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby windmill john » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:42 pm

but stupid car drivers who open doors should be bloody banned.

Easy excuse, but the rider needs to be aware at all times.
If you want the benefit of getting past traffic, then you need to think about every eventuality.

I filter all the time, but if a car turns, changes lane, opens a door, I need to watch for that.

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby Mjolinor » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm

There is no excuse there. People in cars should look before they open the door and no matter how careful you are, that does not stop it happening.

Yes, you should be responsible for your own safety but that is not normal anymore and we are actively discouraged from doing that.

At some stage there is a point where no matter how careful you are some dork will open a car into your bike and there is not a thing you can do about it no matter who you worship or how careful you are. Thankfully the damage to the car usually far exceeds the damage to the bike.

I don't do it on the BMW because I no longer feel safe doing it. I am interested to find out if I do it on this little Honda because I suspect that it is the size of the BMW that stops me doing it.

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby windmill john » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:30 pm

Actually re filtering, Boxers are the safest filtering bike in the world, followed by Moto Guzzi... maybe a CBX or a Kwacker 1300.

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:52 pm

There is no excuse there. People in cars should look before they open the door and no matter how careful you are, that does not stop it happening.

Yes, you should be responsible for your own safety but that is not normal anymore and we are actively discouraged from doing that.

At some stage there is a point where no matter how careful you are some dork will open a car into your bike and there is not a thing you can do about it no matter who you worship or how careful you are. Thankfully the damage to the car usually far exceeds the damage to the bike.

I don't do it on the BMW because I no longer feel safe doing it. I am interested to find out if I do it on this little Honda because I suspect that it is the size of the BMW that stops me doing it.
In my not completely negligible experience, accidents to bikes cause by car occupants opening doors in traffic, moving or stationary, are very rare. It's normally when the car is parked that happens and even then, the bike rider isn't always completely blameless... passing parked vehicles to closely so that you're in the emerging car occupants blind spot and have no room to take evasive action if the 'unthinkable' happens and the door opens isn't really a recipe for a long riding life...

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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby John Marshall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:27 pm

If the UK car drivers employed the Dutch Reach which involves using your “inside “ hand to open the door rather than the hand on the outside, which forces you to look back then there would be much less risk of a door being flung open. As someone who cycled to work for 43 years I am very careful to leave space when passing parked vehicles, if the road width allows.Nevertheless I have had to swerve or brake from time to time. More usual was a car driver overtaking then either stopping dead or turning immediately left. The other one was overtakes but cannot get past so drives along side me about a foot away when I am already doing about 25mph. I am done with that daily pleasure.
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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby DEEP DIVER » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:36 pm

All the more reason not to go there.
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Re: Lane splitting (re) banned in France

Postby DEEP DIVER » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:37 pm

Actually re filtering, Boxers are the safest filtering bike in the world, followed by Moto Guzzi... maybe a CBX or a Kwacker 1300.

You’ll never lose your leg riding a boxer.
Can't filter on my trike, to wide. But I don't mind taking my time .
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