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VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Sun May 10, 2015 5:06 pm

VideoComms is a new concept integrating bike intercom, bike-bike comms and video camera.

Here is a webBikeWorld review of the prototype Sena 10C:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle- ... review.htm
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby DEEP DIVER » Sun May 10, 2015 7:07 pm

Interesting concept,

But will it make a cup of tea?
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Sun May 10, 2015 11:38 pm

Yes, but it is cheaper using a teabag and it will taste better. :smile:
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby mw3230 » Mon May 11, 2015 6:19 am

According to the SENA website this item is 'coming soon' however I found it for sale in Germany - http://www.fc-moto.de/Sena-10C-Camera-C ... oCin3w_wcB - almost tempted! Think I'll have to wait for Christmas
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Mon May 11, 2015 10:14 am

According to the SENA website this item is 'coming soon' however I found it for sale in Germany - http://www.fc-moto.de/Sena-10C-Camera-C ... oCin3w_wcB - almost tempted! Think I'll have to wait for Christmas
Although it goes against the concept of 'wireless', the addition of a bike power lead to charge the battery and run the camera continually in loop mode might be advantageous.

The unit battery would always be fully charged with no running out of power or hassle to recharge at the end of the day and the camera running continuously in loop mode could provide valuable evidence in the event of an accident.
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby raesewell » Mon May 11, 2015 12:31 pm

Most motorcycle accidents in the UK are from rider error so you could be arming your opponent with valuable evidence. Just another point of view.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Mon May 11, 2015 12:55 pm

Most motorcycle accidents in the UK are from rider error so you could be arming your opponent with valuable evidence. Just another point of view.
In that case, could you refuse to hand over the evidence under the Data Protection legislation as it is your personal property? Otherwise, you just delete it!
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby mw3230 » Mon May 11, 2015 2:33 pm

The combined unit is attractive and as Ced says the ability to charge whilst riding is a useful feature. I already use a Sena SMH10 which performs very well and have been considering a camera for some time. One of the features which appeals to me is the video tagging which offers the opportunity to record 'interesting' things and cut down on unwanted footage and the associated editing, after all who wants to see long periods of video showing another biker riding along another road!

The 'evidence' argument has a certain irrefutable logic but it isn't an incentive to me to buy a camera. I'm more attracted by the 'Cecil B de Mille' option of producing entertaining videos for the amusement of family and friends (he laughed). Time will tell!
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby raesewell » Mon May 11, 2015 4:50 pm

It is not unusual for police to seize mobile phones at the scene of an accident I don't see that a camera would be any different.

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Postby P-K » Mon May 11, 2015 5:25 pm

It is not unusual for police to seize mobile phones at the scene of an accident I don't see that a camera would be any different.
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Using a mobile phone whilst driving is an offence.
There is no legislation against dash or handlebar mounted video cameras (as yet)
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby raesewell » Mon May 11, 2015 7:18 pm

Maybe not so easy Phil
If an accident occurs and the police suspect that an offence ie dangerous or careless driving may have been committed surely they have the same rights as they do with mobile phones to use it as evidence.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Lolo » Tue May 12, 2015 12:30 pm

Sounds great :smile:

I have my camera on most of the time especially going to and from work. Im happy for the police to take the data if I've caused an accident from my riding I deserve what I Get!!!!

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Tue May 12, 2015 12:58 pm

You're too honest Lolo!

Scott is so lucky! :grin:
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby raesewell » Tue May 12, 2015 1:16 pm

My sentiments too Lolo, you need to put your hands up and say it's a fair cop guv.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Tue May 12, 2015 1:38 pm

I've just heard that 3 bikers from Sheffield were caught doing 160mph on the A75 at Gatehouse-of-Fleet (single-carriageway 60mph limit).

Although this is a long straight section of road and they might have thought they were in control, it is notorious for deer running out of the adjacent woodland onto the road. Irene was unable to avoid one in the car there when doing 50mph.

No doubt any video evidence might be called on to support the prosecution.

Anyone riding in a wildlife, forestry and farming region like Dumfries & Galloway needs to factor-in deer, pheasant, badgers, foxes, cows, sheep, horse-riders, tractors and road gravel into their riding speed. It's what you can't immediately see that is the danger.

If you are passing through the region on the way to the North West 200 in Northern Ireland, there is an increased police safety presence along the A75, so ride legal, ride safe and ride happy!
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby raesewell » Tue May 12, 2015 2:02 pm

Good info Ced thanks.
My point was, there is a flipside to the camera question. As long as you ride legally there is no downside.
Can we all hand on heart say that we ride legally ALL of the time? I can't.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby george baker » Fri May 15, 2015 10:45 am

Hi
Can we all hand on heart say that we ride legally ALL of the time? I can't
Shame on you Rae, a member of the IAM as well. :bounce:

I heard a programme on Radio 4 a while ago where there was a police officer saying they DO seize cameras to preserve data although they only do it if there has been a major incident IIRC.

I just bought the cheap Aldi camera yesterday so not played with it yet cos I have to format the SD card and my Ubuntu box wont recognize it until it is formatted ](*,) ](*,) The news will make all you windows users even happier than usual.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby raesewell » Fri May 15, 2015 5:17 pm

I'll go and hang my head George :oops:

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby mw3230 » Fri May 15, 2015 5:20 pm

I nearly bought one of the Aldi cameras which seem to get pretty good reviews. I wasn't sure about the fixing however and if it could be helmet mounted or needed to be on the bike so dithered and now I expect they're all gone

A pal of mine suggested that at the price they are it would be worth getting two in case one fell off ... but thinking about it further two (or more) would offer the opportunity to record scenes from different perspectives at the same time - just like the BBC but without the condescension!
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby george baker » Fri May 15, 2015 7:46 pm

Hi
yes they look good, but it was there so it was a case of a "bird in the hand"

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Ali in Austria » Tue May 26, 2015 9:29 am

Just a word of warning for those that travel in Europe. The following applies in Austria and may do so in other countries.

Austria is very strict on privacy, CCTV etc. There has recently been a case through the courts of a guy who had a video camera mounted in his car in the event of an accident or incident. This has been held to be illegal and he received a substantial fine. He lost his appeal.

As I understand it, at the moment it is legal to record your travels on camera whether helmet or vehicle mounted but illegal to be recording just in case something happens. As things stand it will be down to the answers you give as to why you were using one so just be aware and be careful with any response you give to the authorities.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Tue May 26, 2015 10:39 am

Thanks Ali - that's good to know! =D> :grin:
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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby muttly » Tue May 26, 2015 10:14 pm

How about,when you're behaving in a built up area you have the camera on. If you decide to misbehave when out of these areas then just switch it off. At that time we are our own worse enemy, as the death toll in Scotland so far this year would seem to bare out. I got t-boned by a guy coming out of a side street in November. I wish I I'd had a camera because it was all his fault. I'm still waiting to get the claim put to rest although I've just heard they will accept full responsibility.

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Re: VideoComms - The Sena 10C

Postby Lolo » Wed May 27, 2015 8:23 am

Have taken my camera ( attached to my helmet or front of the bike) through 32 countries and never had a problem even through the boarder into Russia !!! Sat nav too (even though i had no maps for some of the countries! Couldn't be bothered to remove it)

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