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Postby gautrek » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:02 pm

I am at the moment trawling around on ebay after an R80 engine or even a complete cheap bike. So made a bid on a rusty naked R80RT. It was very tatty but apparently had had the engine rebuilt with bills to prove. But the frame was rusty and looked to have paint dropping off. The exhausts looked a mess and both disks were a mass of rust ( I know they may have been cast iron but even so).
It finally went for £1900 which is rather a lot of money for a knackered and tatty bike which will need a fair amount of time and money spending on it to make it nice. I would have been happy with around £800 and if it was me selling as thats about what I would have expect for it. Yet for the same money there is a very nice 1986 R80RT with all the gear fitted and a recent clutch replacement.
I will never understand the tossers on ebay who buy crap for lots of money.
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Re: E bay

Postby Sofa » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:37 am

You are of course assuming that the bid of £1900 was genuine and the buyer will actually turn up and pay that. Many years ago a mate said "just because it's advertised in the Mercury for that doesn't mean to say it is worth that or someone actually paid that for it" ebay is much the same I think.
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Re: E bay

Postby mw3230 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:03 am

It always amazes me that people buy second hand things on Ebay for almost the same as the new price, or more than the new price in some cases - especially when you factor in the p and p charges (which many sellers seem to see as part of their profit because they charge more than the genuine cost). There's nowt as queer as folk!
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Postby Bill Smithson » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:22 am

Ebay an idea that changed the way we buy things!
I bought a hydraulic workbench from the Stafford show a few years ago which was discounted from the advertised list price and with free delivery.
The same item was advertised on ebay by the same company at the same time at a higher price than their advertised list price. :???:

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Postby windmill john » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:39 am

But in reverse, you sometimes go to shows and the tools are more expensive than on line. You like to think that the stall holders were offering a deal.
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Postby gautrek » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:32 pm

You are of course assuming that the bid of £1900 was genuine and the buyer will actually turn up and pay that. Many years ago a mate said "just because it's advertised in the Mercury for that doesn't mean to say it is worth that or someone actually paid that for it" ebay is much the same I think.
I bid on something a while ago and lost. I was then offered a second chance at my losing amount. I wanted to say f*** off you scamming barsteward.. But instead just said no thanks I am not interested now. I did actually want the item but refuse to be took for a mug.

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Postby DEEP DIVER » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:44 pm

Old air heads are creeping up in price now, try checking biketrader and gumtree.
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Re: E bay

Postby gautrek » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:32 pm

Oh I am not desperate . One will turn up.
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Postby rallymaneddie » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:57 pm

I think you are better to sit tight until something comes up on this site or (dare I say) UKgser, or similar place that is populated more by enthusiasts and less by jokers looking to make a killing. I got a nice honest old 1100GS in January for reasonable money that way. Had to import it from Republic of Ireland, bit of a palaver with DVLA but got the original UK reg number back. One advantage of buying in the Eurozone at present is the exchange rate.

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Postby IanB » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:28 am

Prices for tatty airheads have gone up rapidly in the last two-three years. I think it has a lot to do with the custom crowd, with people like Kevil's in particular - their business model requires a steady throughput of bikes. As they are not the only people in the game (just the biggest in the UK, I think), there is competition between builders for machines like this. It can only distort the market, and it's unlikely to ease until things become prohibitive for them - I suppose they will then have to broaden their offer to stay in business. Makes life tough for the rest of us, though.
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Postby IanG » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:54 pm

Raging inflation in prices of old British bikes and parts shows no signs of stopping so don't hold your breath for Airheads to go back to sensible prices. It astounds me what some people will pay for stuff.

Here's a typical example. A bulb-holder used on old british bikes. £162 to you
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vintage-motor ... 7675.l2557

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Re: E bay

Postby gautrek » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:55 pm

Well the good news is I have picked up a nice cleanish not too tatty airhead for £1400. Its a mono R80Rt . So they do still exist. the guy in the shop said he now knows he had it on too cheap. He has never had so many people watching a bike on ebay.

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50k on the clock and a very nice sounding engine it is too. Just a bit of a blow from the collector box where there are a couple of holes. But otherwise it would sail through an MOT. So if anyone wants any bits then let me know.
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Re: E bay

Postby windmill john » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:10 pm

Damn fine buy that Gautrek
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Postby Mike D » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:12 pm

So if anyone wants any bits then let me know.
Why, you thinking of breaking it? Would be a shame to break what looks from the photos like a perfectly respectable model to have.

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Re: E bay

Postby windmill john » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Eh!? What!?.... Are you breaking it!!!?? Noooooo
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Postby Ruralman » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:08 pm

Indeed, don't break it :sad:
Ride it :grin:


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Re: E bay

Postby gautrek » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:57 pm

I Don't want to break it but I need the engine. If bloody sherlocks and motoworks didn't want an arm and a leg for an engine I would have got one off them. But £750 for an basic engine and then another £400 on top for the carbs, ignition, alternator, starter and thats before we start thinking about exhausts and little stuff like throttle cables. So breaking a bike makes more sense. Believe me I have been watching ebay for a few weeks now and am shocked at what shite people pay top money for.

I bid £700 on this nail thinking I may have to go to £800.

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But it went for £1900. Its had a rebuilt engine but other than that its a mess There have been other shoddy looking "bobbers" like this going for the same money. So unless someone can come up with a worse bike then its going. It actually looks a lot worse in the flesh anyway.
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Re: E bay

Postby windmill john » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:06 pm

Ermm, call me boring, but the RT is:

Comfortable
Practical
Smooth
Reasonably economical
Quiet
Better than a bobber or cafe racer
Nice
Great
Brilliant
Wonderful
Great price
Complete
Nice again
Wonderful again.
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Postby DEEP DIVER » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:45 pm

All of the above. =D>

Still I am sure that we can find a good home for the unwanted parts.
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Re: E bay

Postby gautrek » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:23 pm

Is the tank the same as a twin shock? As I need a new one for my R80.
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Postby DEEP DIVER » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:07 pm

Is the tank the same as a twin shock? As I need a new one for my R80.

I think the tanks are the same.
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Postby windmill john » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:08 am

If you check Motorworks, they show a different tank 84 on; don't know the reason though.
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Re: E bay

Postby boxerman » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:56 am

Tank looks the same but fittings are different as the the cutaways underneath. Suspect you would find that it won't clear the relays on the left of the bike.
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Re: E bay

Postby Douglas C » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:05 am

Be interesting to see what this one goes for:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R100GS-19 ... 3aae0f91f4
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Re: E bay

Postby Tony the Skin » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:12 pm

Be interesting to see what this one goes for:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R100GS-19 ... 3aae0f91f4

Lack of paperwork might keep the price down but if that had been in order I would guess £3000 to £3500. That said 2 people after the same bike makes a big difference.
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