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The quest for a quiet ride! :)

Postby farmerboy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:48 pm

Hi all, I spent most of last summer attempting to achieve a quiet ride at motorway speeds. It is difficult!
Various screen and helmet configurations were tried but by far the most effective procedure was to seal the gap around my neck and wear earplugs. Most of you will know this already but I have discovered that earplugs are a very personal "fit" and some expensive ones were crap for me. The best I have found after trying lots, are the silicone mouldable ones... my ear canals must be different sizes and the only ones that really work for me are the mouldable ones which pretty well seal out all the wind noise.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Pairs-Adult ... SwImRYOzE8

The difference is astonishing and if you just fit one you will hear the difference!

In conclusion, after countless hours and huge amounts of expenditure the solution cost £2.48! I never ride without them and they are by a country mile the best mod I have done to any of my bikes.

ps changing various screens (on various touring bikes) was an interesting exercise and proved to me that a motorbike screen HAS to be adjustable to be effective. The environment at 30 mph is so different to that at 70mph... some screens work well at certain speeds but it is just a trade off of variables including rider height. BMW have got the right idea with the electric screen. All the rest are just "better" in certain circumstances. Most aftermarket screens I tried were noisier than stock.

pps - this screen is as good as they get..... https://www.werksparts.com/ I met the guy in Houston and he is the sort that is very fussy about stuff and he rode endless miles trying out screens on his two bikes. He ended up with the ones he sells which only fit the bikes he rides.. R1200Rt and VStrom.
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Re: The quest for a quiet ride! :)

Postby windmill john » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:48 am

I find buffeting is affected by screen, type of jacket, model of helmet, position of snood, position of over jacket.....!
So, very personal.
Regarding ear plugs, I used similar from Boots for as while. Very very good, the main reason for stopping was if they were in snugly and I removed them too quickly, the vacuum woukd suck my brain out! A little discomforting. I eventually went to Pinlock earplugs. Not bad for £18. Not as quiet as yours, but much quicker to fit.
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Re: The quest for a quiet ride! :)

Postby keiththeoutfitter1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:45 am

Hi John,
Like you, I have been searching for the perfect screen on my 1200RT. The one you have found looks excellent and is similar to the Z tech vstream that I am using at the moment. BUT, be aware that the BMW is a finely designed piece of engineering :lol: . So finely designed that the extra load on the windscreen operating arms from the bigger screen will eventually cause them to fail. I've had one go already and although they are easy to fit,, they are £25 a time and it's an inconvenience when it goes out on the road. They fracture across the lower pivot eye and you have to put what's left of the eye back onto the pivot pin and lower the screen fully to hold everything in place to get home without the screen flapping about.
I believe that someone in the States used to make replacement steel arms rather than the die-cast alloy originals but they are no longer available - maybe your American contacts can shed more light on these.
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Re: The quest for a quiet ride! :)

Postby farmerboy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:34 am

Good point - I have heard of that issue before... the chap in Houston only makes the screen for the latest wet head bikes and if he has an issue with the supports I bet he will just make some new ones! He has the most amazing workshop with every machine known to man. He makes (by hand!) modified clutch baskets for Suzuki's, which are a work of art, and has a thriving business solving a common Suzuki problem that Suzuki refuse to acknowledge!
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Postby keiththeoutfitter1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:09 pm

Over in Yorkshire we've just had three sunny days in a row - hope that wasn't summer, it's cold and windy today!
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Re: The quest for a quiet ride! :)

Postby Monman » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:37 am

Being a shift worker, (sleeping during the day) as well as a motorcyclist it took me a while but I found the best fitting earplugs are the Howard Leight type made by 3m (all orange in colour). Quite a dense type foam but the most comfortable type that I've found when in the ear.
I've always been a bit fussy as I hate too much noise plus noise can speed up fatigue on long journeys.

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Postby King Herald » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:50 pm

I have used ear plugs for years, for sleeping at night on noisy ships offshore. The secret is in the applications, squeeze and insert as deep as you can, but if you don't get them quite in the right place they 'leak'. I've run out of the type I used to use there, and I retired last year so no more supply.

I bought some in Boots last week, but I was out for a ride yesterday and I had to stop three times just to get my left ear sorted out. Most annoying.

So, I just ordered a pack of those silicon ones off eBay, that Farmerboy linked to, I'll see how they go.

Half my hearing has gone already, after many thousands of miles of high speed riding in my youth, long before anybody wore ear plugs.... but I still find riding horrible with wind noise about 50 with nothing in my ear.
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Postby farmerboy » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:12 pm

Warm them up in your hand, make a torpedo shape and ram 'em in... (pulling top of ear up with free hand)... you will go deaf!
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Postby BoxerCup » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:21 am

Interesting thread, everyone should use them, we all know that but how many times do we see riders pull up at meets, remove their lids and no ear plugs in site ! I sue the yellow 'soft plugs', have done for 'Donkey years' and love em. If I forget, the bike sounds like its a 'bag 'o' spanners' :lol:
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Postby Tony the Skin » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:31 pm

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Postby farmerboy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:59 pm

Ordered John
I had a few boxes of them with me on Thursday - I should have given you a set to try!
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Postby george baker » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:14 pm

Hi
I have ordered a pack so should have a spares if anyone wants to try

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Postby King Herald » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:48 pm

Mine arrived today, test fitted one, seems to work very well without having to force it down into my head like I need to with the foam ones.

I shall road test them soon.
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Postby mw3230 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:42 am

I'm a long time user of the foam plugs but having read the comments on this thread, I've ordered the silicone plugs recommended by Farmerboy. Looking forward to comparing them
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Postby King Herald » Thu May 25, 2017 6:23 pm

I've used them a couple of dozen times now. It does say on the instructions that you are not meant to push them inside your ear, but squish them into the outer hole shape. I've done that and found they work okay, but just don't keep anywhere near as much wind noise out as the foam ones that go deep inside.

However, they are easier to fit, usually work immediately, unlike the foam ones that often need two or three tries to get a good seal.

I shall try rolling them longer and see if they work better thrust inside deeper.
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Postby farmerboy » Thu May 25, 2017 7:30 pm

Yes... thrust deeper is the answer! I used some old foam ones on the wales trip and soon discovered why I prefer the silicon ones. I may even try using one full blob of silicon per ear next time.
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Re: The quest for a quiet ride! :)

Postby Aladin1 » Fri May 26, 2017 8:52 am


I may even try using one full blob of silicon per ear next time.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do? No wonder mine felt uncomfortable after an hours riding. I'm going back to foam plugs
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Postby farmerboy » Fri May 26, 2017 9:02 am

LOL.... no, divide in two!

Just noticed G12 matchless! Any pics?
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Postby King Herald » Fri May 26, 2017 9:48 am

Well, no, the instructions say to roll it in your hands to warm it and soften it, then push it as a round ball, into the outer ear, and NOT inside the ear canal. You don't pull it in half and ram it inside, or you'll never get it out.

Plus the packet does say 'seven pairs' and there are 14 balls of wax......
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Postby Aladin1 » Fri May 26, 2017 5:28 pm

LOL.... no, divide in two!

Just noticed G12 matchless! Any pics?
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Postby Galactic Greyhound » Fri May 26, 2017 7:01 pm

Oh, that's nice! \:D/
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Postby mike pace » Fri May 26, 2017 8:38 pm

That's very nice

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Postby Aladin1 » Fri May 26, 2017 8:58 pm

There is a long story to this bike...........short version is ...I bought it as a non runner in 1969 (I think) and set about on a full rebuild, frame stove enamelled, cylinders rebored, crank regrind, gearbox rebuilt, wheels rebuilt on new rims, loads of chroming......the full monty. I assembled it all fired it up and stood back admiring it....that's when I noticed something amiss....the frame was out of line.....s**t!! So I took it all apart and had the frame straightened and then went working away from home and it stayed in bits in a big box for 40 years. It is now back together as in the pictures with a lot of help from my mechanic mate who sadly died from cancer last year. He rode it a couple of times but I have NEVER RIDDEN IT!!
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Postby farmerboy » Sat May 27, 2017 1:39 pm

Wow..... Al, you have been hiding that beauty away!!!! Lovely, lovely bike..... :) Bring it to a meet so I can drool over it!
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Postby Aladin1 » Sat May 27, 2017 6:06 pm

Wow..... Al, you have been hiding that beauty away!!!! Lovely, lovely bike..... :) Bring it to a meet so I can drool over it!
Ive got to remember how to ride it with left foot brake and right foot gears
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