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Postby CharlieVictor » Wed May 15, 2019 7:53 am

I have seen on other forums that people were not always clear about ULEZ, so there it is, as simple as it can be.

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Re: ULEZ

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Wed May 15, 2019 12:19 pm

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say I don't think they have much of a case.

Most of the small scooters are still 2 strokes which are among the worst when it comes to pollution and bikes in general aren't subject to the same stringent controls as four wheeled vehicles. After all, everything post 2007 already comes with a certificate and anything before that can be tested. We have to accept that anything that can't comply with emission levels falls into precisley that category of vehicles that the regulations are aimed at.

Whether you agree with the concept of Low Emission Zones or not (and I make no comment on that) the idea that bikes should for some unknown reason be exempt from them is basically flawed. Surely it would be more to the point if MCIA and other organisations were to lobby for more testing station availability so that machines that do fall within the regs can claim the exemption that is there's by right rather than the current policy of tilting at windmills.

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Postby keiththeoutfitter1 » Wed May 15, 2019 12:23 pm

You can check if your vehicle is compliant here

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Postby DEEP DIVER » Thu May 16, 2019 10:03 am

Better check my chainsaw. #-o
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Re: ULEZ

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Thu May 16, 2019 10:46 am

Better check my chainsaw. #-o
Only if you intend to ride it into London... now there's an image!

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Postby SteveJ » Tue May 21, 2019 10:15 pm

Surely there’s a correlation between the amount of fuel burnt and the emissions?why should it effect Honda 90s for instance?


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Postby Rob Frankhamr » Wed May 22, 2019 10:17 am

Surely there’s a correlation between the amount of fuel burnt and the emissions?why should it effect Honda 90s for instance?


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Not really. It's more to do with the burn characteristics inherent in the engine. A modern 2 litre car probably produces less emissions than a 1970s Honda 90.

The bottom line is that, if your machine (whatever it is) is capable of complying with the regs, it can be tested and exempted. it's a real time objective test. If it can't then it is quite right that it is subject to the charge.

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Postby SteveJ » Sat May 25, 2019 10:01 pm

Surely there’s a correlation between the amount of fuel burnt and the emissions?why should it effect Honda 90s for instance?


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Not really. It's more to do with the burn characteristics inherent in the engine. A modern 2 litre car probably produces less emissions than a 1970s Honda 90.

The bottom line is that, if your machine (whatever it is) is capable of complying with the regs, it can be tested and exempted. it's a real time objective test. If it can't then it is quite right that it is subject to the charge.

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If we’re talking co2 emissions a Honda 50 cub is rated at 61g/kg. A car that does about 40mpg (and yesterday’s most do better unless in town) 169g/kg
Of course riding around town on a Honda 50 is less polluting than your average car!

https://www.eta.co.uk/2015/10/27/honda- ... -be-wrong/


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Re: ULEZ

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Sat May 25, 2019 10:36 pm

Surely there’s a correlation between the amount of fuel burnt and the emissions?why should it effect Honda 90s for instance?


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Not really. It's more to do with the burn characteristics inherent in the engine. A modern 2 litre car probably produces less emissions than a 1970s Honda 90.

The bottom line is that, if your machine (whatever it is) is capable of complying with the regs, it can be tested and exempted. it's a real time objective test. If it can't then it is quite right that it is subject to the charge.

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If we’re talking co2 emissions a Honda 50 cub is rated at 61g/kg. A car that does about 40mpg (and yesterday’s most do better unless in town) 169g/kg
Of course riding around town on a Honda 50 is less polluting than your average car!

https://www.eta.co.uk/2015/10/27/honda- ... -be-wrong/


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Then, if you take it to the testing station, it'll pass the test, get a certificate, end of issue.

As I said right at the start of the debate, it'd be much more to the point if the pressure groups were campaigning for better access to exemption tests for older vehicles than trying to find an excuse for all motorcycles to be excluded.

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