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Re: I have to ask

Postby Jockboxer » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:44 am

I wont be having a vaccination! Jenner started giving them in 1798 and all his patients are dead!



(Which is about the level of some of the anti vax stuff on t' web!)

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Postby peter » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am

The China virus is a Hoax, it's fake news, they made it up, it's just a flu.
BTW they stole the election, it was all a fraud, every vote that was not on me was a fraud, I am the president. :grin:
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Postby Rob Frankhamr » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:06 am

The China virus is a Hoax, it's fake news, they made it up, it's just a flu.
BTW they stole the election, it was all a fraud, every vote that was not on me was a fraud, I am the president. :grin:


It doesn't matter at all anyway... You're all a figment of my imagination. Solipsism rules! :shock:

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Postby DEEP DIVER » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:57 am

The China virus is a Hoax, it's fake news, they made it up, it's just a flu.
BTW they stole the election, it was all a fraud, every vote that was not on me was a fraud, I am the president. :grin:
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Postby peter » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:32 pm

The Red Pill or the Blue Pill... :shock: (feel your neck)
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Postby nmag » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:49 pm

If the vaccine has been passed by the UK MHRA you can count on it being incredibly safe. I've had Covid-19 for three weeks now and luckily have suffered flu symptoms only, although very severe. A few friends however have sadly passed away from it after it invaded their respiratory system, something that has been worrying me. Like smallpox and yellow fever, this disease is going to hang around until everyone takes the vaccine. Anyone who refuses is being very selfish, especially the younger generation. Anyone under 40 years old will probably experience nothing more than loss of taste and smell, but anyone over 70, especially with an underlying condition will probably die.
The other thing is that you receive a little card that proves you have the vaccine, and I would doubt if you could travel very far without it, not only to other countries but also venues within your own country.
So if you are happy that Covid-19 is never ever going to go away, don't bother taking the vaccine.

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Postby tigcraft » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:55 pm

Well I am surprised at how quickly you’d be happy to try a new vaccine. I’ll keep my thoughts to myself further than that.

Of course if I were dying in bed, then I’d probably try anything.

Seeing as the govt are trying to ban any negative commentary on the vaccine, on all social media, make it illegal to voice opinion, I refuse to be part of the freedom of speech lock down and I will wait until the vaccine has been properly tested en masse, for a reasonable period of time.

The govt have also passed 'emergency laws' that make it legal to hand out covid medications that have not been through the usual rigorous testing procedure.


You do not hear much about testing gone wrong but there are lots of severe problems caused by it. All kept as quiet as possible.

I remember the movie 'I Am Legend', amazing breakthrough vaccine to cure the world of cancer..... worked for a while, then everybody turned into zombies... 8-[
And for every single reason youve posted here is why I dont want it until such a time I feel comfortable its right. I'd rather get Covid than fill my body with a 'One way ticket'. Its not like marrying a bad choice of partner where a divorce gets rid of any long term ties, this is for good
All of the three front runners have already had BIG human trials involving multiple thousands "customers".

I'd imagine it involves lots of people, and lots of time, to see side effects of ageing, child birth, long term mental issues etc. I remember the Thalidomide drug tragedy in the 70's....

https://helix.northwestern.edu/article/ ... regulation
And for all the reasons above I'm going to be the last on the list!!
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Re: I have to ask

Postby tigcraft » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:07 pm

Hi
could we confirm people have had the jab by injecting a microchip in to them?


(please understand this idea is a Joke / wind up)
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Postby windmill john » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:38 pm

The problem we have in reality is too many people on this planet and how do we get rid before the earth does it for us?

Anyone who cuts down a tree because it blocks light. We need millions of trees planted, especially along railway embankments and river banks to stop erosion... oh no... leaves on the line... oh no... off topic sorry...
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Postby peter » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:00 pm

The problem we have in reality is too many people on this planet and how do we get rid before the earth does it for us?
"Logan's run" had a solution.

China also had a solution: the one child policy.
Every one wanted a son, baby girls were killed, and than there was an unexpected shortidge of females.

Also it seems that more educated people get less children compared to people with low education.

But there are also countries where children are their parents old-age pension. More children is a better pension.
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Re: I have to ask

Postby tigcraft » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:32 pm

The problem we have in reality is too many people on this planet and how do we get rid before the earth does it for us?
"Logan's run" had a solution.

China also had a solution: the one child policy.
Every one wanted a son, baby girls were killed, and than there was an unexpected shortidge of females.

Also it seems that more educated people get less children compared to people with low education.

But there are also countries where children are their parents old-age pension. More children is a better pension.


What I've noticed so many times but more so when I return from holidays back to the UK is the population, the traffic and the 24 hour white noise from dirty great industry.

We are truly gridlocked in population.
This "vaccine " might be a long term way of stopping population growth throughout the world, its the easiest and most stealth way of doing it.

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Postby peter » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:39 pm

White noise, I only have strong noise every 6 minutes or every 3 minutes when I'm in between runways when they land.
When they take off, they should take more distance, going round the village. But even then with a direct view they are pretty noisy.
And with corona Schiphol is busy as ever, otherwise they would have to do night flights.
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Postby King Herald » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:55 am

The problem we have in reality is too many people on this planet and how do we get rid before the earth does it for us?
"Logan's run" had a solution.

China also had a solution: the one child policy.
Every one wanted a son, baby girls were killed, and than there was an unexpected shortidge of females.

Also it seems that more educated people get less children compared to people with low education.

But there are also countries where children are their parents old-age pension. More children is a better pension.

First visit to the Philippines, 1993, population was 73,000,000 I lived there on an off for then next 25 years, and I can’t claim they are all my offspring, but when I left for good four years ago the population was 105,000,000

That is damn near 50% growth in 25 years or so. Totally unsustainable, but with the catholic church preaching against birth control change is coming very slowly. Oddly enough, their covid death toll is (claimed to be) only 8000. :-k

They do have the idea that children are an investment, to look after you in old age, but the days of splitting the family farm lands between male heirs has long gone, you can’t grow much rice on 20 square metres each.

Population explosion is the human races biggest problem, and we need something to happen to stop it.
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Re: I have to ask

Postby krankshaft » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:17 am

Nmag
If you're over 70 you'll probably die? Really?
So, most people over 70 who get a positive PCR-test will die?
Scary stuff!
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Re: I have to ask

Postby nmag » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:00 pm

Not if you get the vaccine. Happy Christmas.

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Postby george baker » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:36 pm

Hi
Not to tempt fate but I think we will all die, it's just when and what of

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Postby Mjolinor » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:40 pm

Hi
Not to tempt fate but I think we will all die, it's just when and what of

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Hmm, not sure when and what of really bother me that much . In fact the less I know of it the better as far as I can see. :)

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Postby george baker » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:49 pm

Hi
Like woody Allan said
He didn't mind dying he just didn't want to be there when it happened

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Postby andys » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:17 pm



If you want a very specific answer. That quote is obvious and self evident rubbish since the figures as quoted state (yes even on the TV) that the deaths are within 28 days of a positive test.

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You see you haven't even bothered to read the link I posted.
Up till that report was published there was no cut off for testing positive and dying.
The 28 day cut off was only introduced as a result of that report.
So my point still stands
Much as you want to stick your fingers in your ears, the fact remains that up till this report was published, when death rates were at their highest, we cannot validate the accuracy of those figures because people were being added to the death stats who had not died with covid as a contributory factor.
Please at least read the material you claim to be at odds with
The clue is
"By this PHE definition no one is ever allowed to recover from covid"
I repeat
THE 28 DAY CUT OFF WAS BOUGHT IN AS A RESULT OF THIS REPORT

Here's what cebm reported following the PHE change in methods for gathering statistics after their report was published.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/public-he ... a-revised/

Unfortunately they have not changed the criteria for death reporting because people are still being added because they died within 28 days of a positive test, irrespective of weather covid was a contributory factor.

Test positive, get struck down by a meteorite and killed while walking the dog, and provided the incident occurred within 28 days of your test, you become a covid death.

They describe as "died WITH covid"
Which means absolutely nothing.

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Re: I have to ask

Postby Mjolinor » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:06 pm

Concerned about the safety?

Educate yourself. :)

See you next Christmas if your ability to understand is owt like mine and you do have the staying power. :)

https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/rever ... r-vaccine/

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Re: I have to ask

Postby Rob Frankhamr » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:03 pm

Concerned about the safety?

Educate yourself. :)

See you next Christmas if your ability to understand is owt like mine and you do have the staying power. :)

https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/rever ... r-vaccine/

I fear you're wasting your time... It's quite clear these articles are created by people who are in on the conspiracy to turn us all into mutants controlled by microchips in our blood stream... I mean, the evidence is there on the internet. You just have to read it. :grin:

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Postby Mjolinor » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:11 pm

I thought it was quite a good article that one about how similar hacking the RNA code of the vaccine compares to hacking any firmware.
Summary here: https://hackaday.com/2020/12/26/analyzi ... 9-vaccine/

I will admit I got lost reading it and gave up. I intend to go back and have another go.

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Re: I have to ask

Postby nmag » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:58 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55471282
I can see most countries doing this. To put it simply, if you refuse the vaccine you might as well burn your passport.

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Postby DEEP DIVER » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:14 pm

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Postby george baker » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:33 pm

Hi
Spain is to set up a registry of people who refuse to be vaccinated against coronavirus and share it with other European Union nations
It may be a translation problem refuse could have been DECLINE?

other European Union nations Not GB then although there is NI to consider

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