K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber » Thu May 31, 2012 9:23 am

seem to be rambling a bit away from the Fighter [ STILL in progress !! :roll: ], but as the title of the thread is non-marque specific, here's another taster of the Boardtracker style. A little OTT for everyday use, but still has the flowing lines.

There have of course been many BMW [ Boxer ] variants on Rigid Frame and Plunger based "Specials" - mostly German and most exceedingly well executed.

I'm still busy collecting parts for my Swansong project - the Max Deubel Sitter Homage....................... :-"

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby dervmonkey » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:35 pm

If going the SU route, you could use the carb from a Montego turbo (an SU from a Metro Turbo is a similar job, but smaller) as they are setup as 'blow through' type, which would simplify plumbing & final tuning.

If running a 'suck through' carb, getting the mixture stable can be a problem due to the distance the mixture has to travel and the fuel can fall out of suspension resulting in droplets of fuel rather than a nice mixture of fuel and air.

But you probably know that already :)

Keep up the good work

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:17 pm

Derv Monkey,

Thanx for the input. Yes a blow through would be much simpler as it widens my scope for donor Turbo units ! Suck through are [ as you might imagine ] old hat now, and difficult / expensive to find.

I'm still also toying with blowing the Kay - especially as it might now be growing a chair [ ommigawd ]. Ideally I'd like to fit an Eaton blower from a Mini, but ideally I need someone with lathe / machining facilities to make the front drive pulley.

So many projects .................... :roll:

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby dervmonkey » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:58 pm

I think, depending on your take on ECU's and the like that a Kay would be pretty straight forward to force induction.

Have you heard of Megasquirt (or Microsquirt - same thing, only smaller) - you can normally use all the existing components like injectors/throttle bodies etc and add a 33-1 trigger wheel, setup the various sensors/injectors and then get it mapped properly.

I had a Microsquirt ECU for a while as I was going to attempt to turbocharge a Honda C90 engine, sadly due to it being a single cylinder it was never going to make boost properly due to the lack of exhaust flow and also the 'pulse' nature of the exhaust gases.

I did get it running EFi though, I used a small Honda combined throttle body with Inlet air temp/throttle position/air flow sensors, configured some basic settings and it ran really well.

The Microsquirt (or Mega) will run closed loop fuelling for cruise duties and with the pressure sensors will fuel properly too, they really are very good little boxes.

You could connect it to a PC and configure it, but also see live output from sensors etc for those road side tuning times.

Like you say, so many projects!

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:11 pm

Hi
Raspberry Pi? Make your own ECU, small, cheap, loads of apps out there apparently

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby dervmonkey » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:04 pm

Interesting point there George,

I guess the various interfaces wouldn't be too hard to make I think the algorithms for functions such as fuelling and boost compensation would be extremely difficult to write from scratch without some major knowledge of physics etc.

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:13 pm

Was it really JULY when I was gettingt the spacer made for the front fork / wheel conversion ? Who stole 2012 ???????????

Anyway, I finally collected the wheel and forks from the guy that was altering the spacer last weekend. Needless to say not only had he NOT altered the spacer for me - but he also maaged to lose it ! #-o

I've now got another guy who says he will do it for me. He's again taken the forks and wheel assy' and I managed to find a spacer [from one of my Yamahas of all things ] that is the right ID and just needs to be machined to the correct length.
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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:02 pm

Was it really JULY when I was gettingt the spacer made for the front fork / wheel conversion ? Who stole 2012 ???????????

Anyway, I finally collected the wheel and forks from the guy that was altering the spacer last weekend. Needless to say not only had he NOT altered the spacer for me - but he also maaged to lose it ! #-o

I've now got another guy who says he will do it for me. He's again taken the forks and wheel assy' and I managed to find a spacer [from one of my Yamahas of all things ] that is the right ID and just needs to be machined to the correct length.

And ditto 2013 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll:

Although I have a good excuse this time [ my sick note from hospital ], and ongoing with my Doberman recovering from major surgery to remove a cancer [ successful ].

ah well...............2013 NOT a total loss. I now have power in my garage courtesy of my neighbour who decided to dig a trench in the private road at the back of our houses in order to bury an electric feed to his garage. So THAT's why I had that armoured cable for the past 25 years !!! Yes power, what a marvel. AND a roof that now keeps most of the rain on the outside. :lol:

Stripped all the other projects [ KZ750 Flat Tracker, Yamaha TR1 cafe Racer ] down to basic components to be sent away for various processes - blasting, powder coating, polishing, Gold passivating, ..................... which in turn meant that my ramp was now free for the first time in 18 months to get the Fighter back in and under way [ again :roll: ]

No the bloke did NOT make the wheel spacer as promised - but another guy did, and in 2 days !

Realistically, the Fighter is now ready for the final fork / wheel conversion swap [ only TWO years ] and then it's down to final detailing of brackets, fettling the GRP panels and ready for paint.

Still undecided about the colourways - I'm thinking a Satin Black overall with accents [ wheels, frame, m/giuard etc ] in either FO Orange [ a la Honda ] or a Lime Green [ Kawasaki ] I've seen a "Frosted Plum" colour on a CAV crash helmet, but I can't track down what or where for the formula.

Only problem is that I have to watch over the dog during the day to make sure she doesn't jump up at the door [ visitors, postman, Jehova's Witnesses .... ] and pull the wound apart again. Ah well ..................... :cool:

Arwen .............. \:D/

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:16 am

April 1st ..... no it's not an April Fool's joke - work really did recommence on the Fighter on that day !

Dog's rehab took longer than expected [ wound still not fully closed up ], but no excuses now and with my three score and ten firmly in the bag - time's awasting.

Finally got a welder friend [ yet anothe rone ] to actually carry out the work he promised and the rear framework, seat /# plate / light / indicator / GRP panel mounting tabs all welded and finished - phew only took 2 years !

Final fettling, alignment of panels, then it's a strip down for a coat of paint. BTW - that IS the mule seat - have a pristine one to fit when the prototyping is completed.

The wheel conversion is also finally finished and the wheels have been stripped and prepped for paint - yes, can't afford the powder coating they were getting. So - Rob and others who enquired, I'll get pix and details of the finished conversion up soon. Easy ................. when you've done it !

On the road this year ??? I certainly hope so. :-k

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:55 am

Hi
I do wish you hadn't posted that TJ, it reminds me I should work on my project, in fact I was thinking about it this morning

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby Jaythro » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:14 am

Nice to see you back Beachcomber!

How goes it with the Health
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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:42 pm

Nice to see you back Beachcomber!

How goes it with the Health
Thanx for the thoughts .........have to say Kidneys now working pretty much as they should and everything else under control thanx to our wonderful health service / my doctor. =D>

Has it really been SEVEN YEARS since I started these Kay Fighter projects !!! :roll:

Anyway, on a bit of a roll now ..... K1200S wheels have been stripped of wheels weights and other clag and pressure washed and light key with 400 grit before I paint them [ rattle can ]. I think I'm going with metallic Gold.

Yes, come on George - get on with it !!! :lol:
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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:45 pm

Hi
thanks TJ, started on the T though.

I may even take it to Scotland on Friday

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Fri May 16, 2014 9:21 am

Hi
it looks like you have a good set of parts to start with
George
I think that's part of my problem George - too many options !!

However - the good news.

Back on the Kay now with a vengeance - 3 score and ten achieved now :-" - not a lot of time for playing with my toys - and the toys are not even finished !

The K1200S wheels have now been prepped and painted in precisely the Gold I had in mind - that WAS after 4 aborted attempts with other "Gold" shades. #-o The tyres will be mounted up next week, and I'll finalise dressing the top yoke [ ie whizzing the ignition barrel tower off ! ] then the forks are ready for the RAM Goldline progressive springs and the big swap over can commence. 4 pot Brembos gently soaking in release fluid prior to being overhauled.

All the rear GRP / seat mounts have been made - just need to fettle the final fit of the panels, then it's strip off and paint / detail. :lol:

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Fri May 16, 2014 10:37 am

Hi
You shame me, cos I am younger and I bought more bits but still have not REALLY started the project. I have fitted the single seat and made a mock up for the box behind though

How did you get the GRP done? Did you DIY or did you go to a specialist? Always a messy job

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Sun May 18, 2014 12:10 pm

Hi
You shame me, cos I am younger and I bought more bits but still have not REALLY started the project. I have fitted the single seat and made a mock up for the box behind though

How did you get the GRP done? Did you DIY or did you go to a specialist? Always a messy job

George
Ha ...................... I had the panels [ side and cowl ] made in aluminium by ace alloy basher Pete Kyte. Then for safety of the originals - I had the GRP moulds made by my pal Adrian who used to make my GRP bodies for the replicas.

The panels are only loosely in place- although all the tabs and brackets are done. I'll realign everything and finalise the fit prior to stripping down for paint. At the time I had the moulds done, several people had an interest in replica sets. Sold 3 sets before I stashed the moulds !

Tyres off to be fitted thid week - let's hope they don't damage my fresh new paint !
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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Sun May 25, 2014 5:45 pm

Tyres fitted up ...............

Forks back next week to finalise the yokes [ reamer out K100 ] and then it's a final fit up before sttripping the bike for paint, detail etc. then swap the forks / wheels over.

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Mon May 26, 2014 9:38 pm

Hi
I got given a guillotine to cut my fibre glass board board, just need the time to do it. I have discovered the police solo seat does not fit the later tail piece

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Yep, the board cuts OK, I had to use plastic padding to hold the bits together until I get some resin, but at least I have moved ahead.

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:47 pm

Hi
it looks like you have a good set of parts to start with
George
Well yes - and there's more!

Another poor year [ 2013] health wise with my Dobe also having Cancer [ now sorted ] and a very close family bereavement ............... :-({|= :-({|=

However, clean bill of health for the time being and raring to go. So what's happened since I last posted ??? Not a lot ! :roll:

However, I AM now somewhat closer inasmuch as the front wheel conversion [ K1200S ] is finally completed and the K100 top yoke has been reamered out for the K110 fork stanchions. I wanted the K100 yoke as it's completely free of all the additional squitter that's on the K1100 - purely cosmetic. Wheels are painted and tyres mounted. Engine also fired up 2nd prod after being dormant for 18 months !

Did I mention I had a spare K1100 bottom end with minimal mileage and I was contemplating a supercharger ??? Well, an Eaton blower fell into my lap some time ago - actually it was bought for my Standard Vanguard estate Hot Rod [ !! ], but it's physically too small enough - just right for the K1100 though. :wink: That is definitely for a Mk2 engine, as I just want to get the bike on the road before my knees give out completely. And probably coincide with the hitching of a chair.

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:24 am

HI
please to see some progress, me too but hardly anything compared to you. I got the single seat on and made the piece to go behind it--even had to get a fibreglass guillotine to cut it-- just have to reinforce it from behind, resin and fibre bought just need to get round to fitting it.

Keep posting, BTW how is the 3 wheeler coming along? I still want to try an MP3 sometime

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:00 pm

I retrieved my forks [ K1100 ] from my pal's workshop today. I'll trial fit my newly reamered K100 top yoke just to be sure [!], then it's decision time before I fit them up - Clip-Ons or Renthals. :-k

I've got parts for my Kawasaki KZ750 Flat Tracker and Yamaha TR1 Cafe Racer going off next week for powder coating - which in turn leaves my bike ramp free, so it's back with the Kay from my pal's in 2 week's time to start final pull down for detailing and paint. \:D/
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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:26 pm

Hi
so many projects, so little time-- And you seem the same

Keep having fun doing them

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:28 am

Hi
so many projects, so little time-- And you seem the same

Keep having fun doing them

George

In a nutshell George !! :cry:

Without getting morbid about it - the sad realisation is that there is far more behind than in front !!

Frankly the past 3-4 years have whizzed by in a haze of medical problems and general - "where did that year [s] go? "

That's one reason I culled several of my projects some years ago - although severe lack of funds added to the decision !

I think it's all about having a goal [ or several ] that's important.

Talking of which - the Scorpio 3 wheeler is temporarily on ice as my pal has been so busy with building C Type Jag replicas he hasn't had time to allot to the project.

Sad, as the bodywork is now finalised and the rolling chassis has been proved out - just sitting in the corner of his workshop gathering dust.

It's not abandoned though [ thank goodness ! ], and the project will be re-ignited early next year. \:D/
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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby george baker » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:38 pm

hi
It's not abandoned though [ thank goodness ! ], and the project will be re-ignited early next year. \:D/
I'm pleased to hear that

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Re: K100 /1100 Streetfighter update

Postby beachcomber550 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:31 pm

Can you effing well believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After waiting - how long? - to get all my parts back, it appears that K1100 forks are spaced [ legs ] 5mm further apart !!!

That in turn means my beautifully reamered K100 top yokes won't fit. Arrrrggghhhhhh. Anyroadup, the machine shop guy took pity on my stupidity, and is currently modding the OEM K1100 top yoke. This involves removing the ignition from the tower, and whizzing the tower off ! So we end up with a smooth, clutter free top yoke. Timely warning to self - don't make assumptions.

Good new is that my one off front wheel spindle I thought was lost - was in fact "PUT IN A SAFE PLACE" by Mrs. B - she also found the missing spacers - which were put in a seperate "SAFE PLACE".

To give her due respect, when I asked "Who's seen my *&^%******* wheel spindle" - she didn't say "What's that", but went straight to the sideboard draw [ ?? ] where she'd put it. And the spacers - in her sewing box ..... where else ?

So, it's install new RAM Goldline progressive fork springs, paint and we're good to swap - there only took 2 years !
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